The MartinLogan Motion 40i’s point out this incredible soundstage performance better than any floor standing cone-based speakers that this writer has heard in a long time. The IM and phase improvements vs. single wire are a bonus. all cables are lossy, so in reality, all cables do something poorly if they change the sound. It’s just an incontrovertible fact of physics that if two interconnects sound different, it’s because the two cables are attenuating different portions of the audio spectrum and both are wrong. Speaker cables are different in that the impedances involved are low; less than  1 Ohm usually for the amplifier (assuming solid state here), and nominally four or eight Ohms for the speaker. When one pulls the bellows back apart, those spaces re-appear. Meanwhile, Martin Logan Motion 40 is a step higher than Martin Logan Motion 20, and is the middle model of the series. Inductance uh/ft/loop: .034 Of course, the same thing is occurring inside the bellows as well and that out-rush of air is what powers the instrument and vibrates the various reeds to play the notes.Â. When I unboxed the 40i’s for the first time, I was rather disappointed. I was replacing my beloved MartinLogan Aeon-i electrostatic hybrid speakers with these and found them thin and forward in the midrange with a slightly nasal quality. Martin Logan has updated their Motion Series Speakers. And yes, it definitely changes the sound of the top end. When they do that at an audio rate, sound is produced. The other characteristic they have is a deeper soundstage compared to the Linn K400 bi-wires and generic 12ga cables I own. But that same length of RG-59 will attenuate a 100 MHz signal by more than 10 dB (IIRC)!  On good headphones, the string bass is truly realistic and totally natural sounding. Also, speaker impedance is spec’d as “nominal”. The AMT tweeter is still the star of this show. No doubt. I think he designs the cabinets more than the innards of his speakers because he was a truck driver before his speaker days. It has minimum effect on the system’s sound. You agree that capacitance, inductance and resistance change with biwire vs single run. On my own recording with the “San Jose California Symphony Orchestra” under Georg Cleve of Ravel’s Daphnis et Chloe ballet, the triangle floating over the left side of the orchestra has a clarity and an other-worldly etherial quality that I have rarely heard on a speaker. MartinLogan also launched its new Crescendo wireless speaker system at CES, which uses a 24-bit/48kHz DSP engine, a single 5"x7" polypropylene-cone woofer, and two Folded Motion tweeters. Martin Logan Motion 35XT review; Sound. It can accept audio data via Bluetooth and AirPlay. This was confusing because the note on the packing slip told whoever was in charge of dispatching these speakers to me to be sure to see that they were run-in for 100 hours and inspected before they were sent out. There is sound, relatively simple physics behind this. 1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said: On 12/20/2019 at 8:02 PM, audiobomber said: On 12/30/2019 at 6:37 AM, audiobomber said: bi-wiring if one believes in such a thing", https://www.qacoustics.co.uk/blog/2016/06/08/bi-wiring-speakers-exploration-benefits/. Het ontwerp is nu nog wat interieurvriendelijker geworden met meer oog voor detail. When the pleats are squeezed together, on one half of their cycle, they compress the air between each fold, displacing it and when the pleats expand again, on the other half of the cycle, they rarefy the air as it rushes in to refill the voids between each fold. But in any case, the amount that any speaker cable will affect a speaker’s sound will be minuscule, often less than a dB over any given frequency range. For this review, we are interested in the next to the largest floor stander, the Motion 40i.Â. Uh, DC resistance of a speaker is irrelevant and not the same thing as impedance. In most cases, it doesn’t apply significantly to audio due to the lengths involved, coupled with the very low frequency band width of an audio signal. Each pair of the four connection are strapped together but are separable via metal straps for bi-amping, (or bi-wiring if one believes in such a thing). Tonally, they are a little warmer than neutral, which suits my system and preferences. MartinLogan is an American speaker manufacturer (although its main factory is in Canada) long known for its hybrid electrostatic/cone loudspeakers. Quick changes and A-B testing are useful but not definitive. (edited to correct bone-headed spelling error), Long term listening is great for getting used to changes between any new configuration or hardware over the previous configuration or hardware. That’s not to say that the bass on these speakers is not satisfying, it is quite so, and gives the speakers a fulsomeness that is addictive to say the least in spite of not being as neutral as some.Â. Of course, the larger the cross-section of the cable (AWG) the lower the cable’s impedance (resistance, capacitance, inductance). Thanks for your review,they sound much better than there previous models. Martin Logan, the company best known for it’s electrostatic speaker designs, is now a subsidiary of Paradigm. I sampled several DVDs and the ML wins out every time. The MartinLogan Motion 40i speakers are an affordable entry into a truly full range high-end speaker system. Dat bedoel ik positief, want evolutie of nieuw betekent niet per definitie beter. Here are the rest of the specs: Outside Diameter: .600" ‘If breathtaking, lifelike audio accuracy is important to you, you owe it to yourself to hear MartinLogan.’ Dat is nogal een uitspraak en we namen de proef op de som door een paartje MartinLogan Motion 40 vloerstaanders aan de tand te voelen. The current Motion Series of non-ESL (dynamic-driver) speakers from ML encompasses some thirteen models ranging from bookshelf to floorstander, with the 60XT the premium offering. That adds resistance, capacitance and  inductance. Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for MartinLogan Motion 10 Floorstanding Speaker (Black Ash, each) (Discontinued by Manufacturer) at Amazon.com. Sure it can change the sound, but I assure you it is subtracting something rather than adding anything. Read Full Review Here. A phone conversation with Devin Zell of MartinLogan assured me that whatever run-in these speakers received at the factory, they undoubtedly needed more. In addition to three floorstanders, the series includes the ultra-slim (less than 2″ thick), SLM models, as well as dedicated center-channel and sound-bar speakers targeted at home theater. Going up the spectrum the aluminum coned midrange is clean and well balanced. Martin Logan 60XTi measurements from NRC here Bowers 702 S2 measurements from Stereophile here Unfortunately two different measurement techniques, so it's not an exact apples-to-apples comparison. Also, while we’re on the subject, bi-amping a speaker that won’t let you bypass the built-in cross-overs, is also, mostly futile. The speaker uses the largest yet Folded Motion XT tweeter to come from MartinLogan, marrying it to a 6.5" midrange unit and a pair of 8" woofers. But you really should know what’s actually going on. Like I said. At a $2,000 price tag, the MartinLogan Motion 40 loudspeakers could be either. The largest model in the Motion series, and the newest, is the four driver, $3,000/pair 60XT tower. Consider that the MartinLogan Motion 40 is in a competitive price point. The Martin Logan’s will reward the listener when care is paid to matching the components of the system. A metal grille attaches to the baffle with magnets, and has a set of indented perforations in … Also, while we’re on the subject, bi-amping a speaker that won’t let you bypass the built-in cross-overs, is also, mostly futile. As length and frequency increase, wire characteristics become a larger and larger component of a system’s overall performance. Even if you are stuck with the speaker’s built-in crossover, you will still get benefit if, for instance the two amplifiers you are using have vastly different sonic signatures. B&W sensitivity might be a … If you are in the market for a new pair of floor-standing, small footprint, full-range speakers, put these on your short-list and try to give them a good, hard listen. Believe me, this subject is neither rocket science nor magic. Capacitance pf/ft: 117 Initial impressions can be misleading, it takes time to determine a cable's strengths and weaknesses. My opinion is that using cables, either interconnects or speaker cables as a fixed “tone control” is wrong-headed.Â. The first thing I noticed was that the nasal quality rather quickly disappeared. The dual woofer design allows for a more vibrant, tighter and extended bass performance. There have been a review or two so far mentioning the 60xt's would benefit from Room Equalization software which is the reason for my inquiry on the amp used on this review. MartinLogan Motion 40 are $200 more expensive than the average speakers ($499). Not a lot, but did it change, on direct comparison, the character of the sound. The sound also changed when I single-wired with jumpers on the tweeters vs. jumpers on the woofers. It crosses over at a slightly lower frequency but the result is the same – effortless ESL-like upper midrange clarity and high frequency extension.Â. I listen for flaws. https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/58081-bi-amping-discussion/, Now, I've tried most everything, including bi-wiring. They're in the top 3 bestselling speakers and have dozens of popular alternatives in the same price range, such as Klipsch RP-8000F or Klipsch Synergy F-200. Lately, we are seeing a resurgence in people who are interested in larger, full range floorstanding speakers. The ‘XT’ stands for ‘extreme’ and the 35XT lives up to that moniker with a bigger 16.5cm aluminium cone driver (up from 13cm in the 15 mo… If you are worried about the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) take the lovely lady along with you and show her the red walnut finished cabinets. A metal decorative strip separates the two fabric covered plastic grills, each of which is separately removable and held in place magnetically. The physical characteristics of the wire determine the performance of the cables, not the price. Readers will remember that several months ago this reviewer wrote about the company’s bookshelf Motion™ 4i speakers. That might just cinch the deal. Dit zijn niet de befaamde elektrostaten van het Amerikaanse merk, maar wat meer traditionele speakers. The sloped-top cabinets have nicely tapered corners so there’s not a sharp edge in sight, and the way the glossy black (or cherrywood) lacquer frames the brushed aluminium baffle oozes style. I use Sewell Direct “Silverback” speaker wire in six foot (only) lengths. Bi-wiring doesn’t really do anything positive. This cable is 12 Ga, 259 strand, OFC cable and in such short runs, changes the overall impedance of the system by less than a quarter of an Ohm. The speaker uses the largest yet Folded Motion XT tweeter to come from MartinLogan, marrying it to a 6.5" midrange unit and a pair of 8" woofers. and although the company is still based in Kansas, its speakers are now made in Canada. > "bi-wiring if one believes in such a thing". If you’re a real movie love, you can’t go wrong with these tower speakers as you will hear the true meaning of clarity. One could, contemplate the ElectroMotion ESLs for about the same price, but I have friends who have these speakers and as good as they are, in my opinion, the Motion 40i’s are a better value. #7: Martin Logan Motion 60XT. Dielectric Type: Teflon®, Air Imaging on this speaker, is almost uncanny. I know that there are many, very good speakers in the $2000.00 a pair range. For instance, if you prefer the bass of a solid-state amp, you might want to put that on the woofer, but if you prefer the sweet open high-end often attributed to tubes, then you might want to use a good-sounding tube amp on the tweeter (perhaps even a low wattage SET). For instance, if you prefer the bass of a solid-state amp, you might want to put that on the woofer, but if you prefer the sweet open high-end often attributed to tubes, then you might want to use a good-sounding tube amp on the tweeter (perhaps even a low wattage SET). The Motion 40i is a tall, narrow “tower” speaker of the type so popular these days. Judging the value of a cable swap is best determined with extended listening time. Even if you are stuck with the speaker’s built-in crossover, you will still get benefit if, for instance the two amplifiers you are using have vastly different sonic signatures. At the bottom of the cabinet is a Helmholtz resonator (a round -in this case- bass-reflex port with an internal pipe connected to it). Same here...passed them on to a family member and he is absolutely thrilled with the Requests. Have you ever tried bi-wiring? There may be some cheaper cable that I would like just as well, possibly even better, but I don't know where I would find these among the multitude of choices, because measurements unfortunately do not tell the whole story.Â, Like I said. Back to Anne-Sophie Mutter’s violin on the Williams film soundtrack album, it is as sweet as a mother’s kiss with soaring highs and resinous bowing that sounds utterly realistic. It cannot have gain, it can only have losses; it can only attenuate signals, and all wire does this to some extent! MartinLogan is an American speaker manufacturer (although its main factory is in Canada), On May 13, 2019, Paradigm Electronics in Mississauga Ontario, issued a press release that stated "Scott Bagby and John Bagby announced the purchase of Paradigm Electronics, Anthem Electronics, and MartinLogan Loudspeakers, effective May 10, 2019.". Scott Bagby, one of the original founders of Paradigm Electronics, will continue as Chairman and will assume the role of CEO. Now you’ve got the true advantages afforded by bi-amping! The elegant Motion 20 & 40 tower speakers are the newest additions to MartinLogan's award-winning Motion Series. Design As the lowest model, Martin Logan Motion 20 also becomes the smallest and most compact one. Dr. Heil invented this concept in the early 1970’s and applied it a line of speakers built by the firm of ESS in South El Monte, California. The upgrades on the Motion 35XTi speaker ($649.99 each) are subtle, and termed “housekeeping” by the company’s Peter Soderberg. The 20i's 40 Hz low-frequency extension was apparent, ... • Check out our Floorstanding Speakers category page to read similar reviews. Conductor Type: Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Crossfield, Pure Copper, Litz, I am 100% confident that the Cardas cables let info through that your inexpensive cables lose. IME, it's pointless to argue with someone who believes there's "one true way" to build a audio system, and this is all off-topic, so I'll leave it at that.Â. This will affect the frequency response curve of the speaker by attenuating the signal less. At a very minimum, biwiring is equivalent to halving the length your speaker wires. This piece has a bass line that is truly spectacular. There are a gazillion examples of "Masters in EE" who disagree with audiophiles, and I would point out, with designers, some of whom also hold Masters in EE. Next, the bass improved by leaps and bounds and the speakers’ overall balance became more neutral. Â. I’m not going to go so far as to say that the audio cable business is snake oil, (i.e. When Home Theater Review’s editor called to ask if I’d be interested in reviewing MartinLogan’s new Motion 40 speakers, I jumped at the chance. The price is reasonable and the AMT tweeter is an amazing device. My opinion is backed by decades of listening in my room, with my system and my music. Not my cup o' joe. I had breakfast with him at AXPONA once. Quite a few designs used an AMT at the Toronto audio fest. Martin Logan seems to have hit a nice balance with the [Motion 15s], the first speakers of their kind from Martin Logan, there is a lot to like here. Martin Logan Motion 40 Tower Speakers As I mentioned earlier, when you can look at speaker options between $500 and $1,000 it opens up the opportunity to explore different speaker designs. The MartinLogan Motion 40i speakers are rated at 40 to 25KHz ±3dB and are recommended to be used with amplifiers ranging from 20 to 300 Watts/channel and have a sensitivity of 92dB/2.83volts/meter. The three XT models (35XT, 50XT, and 60XT) feature this new, larger-diaphragm tweeter; the other four Motion models use the standard Folded Motion driver. I use Cardas Neutral Reference bi-wire speaker cables. I agree that cables are subtractive, but they can also be used to flavour the stew, with subtle but important changes in tonality, detail, soundstage and PRaT.Â. MartinLogan Motion 40i ($2399.98 /pair) With the top grill removed, the speaker looks like a typical small bookshelf or desktop speaker with the low frequency driver topped with the tweeter. They are both wrong only if they both change the sound! Get your old music out with these beauties because you will hear things you’ve never heard before. I like to hear all opinions, from all sides. The same technology is evident here in the 40i. Some frequencies will be attenuated more than others, and this depends upon the cable’s AC characteristics. MartinLogan’s Motion Series 40 Tower Speakers were previously reviewed by our staff writer Francisco Licon back in 2017 for a music-based set-up which you can read here. The Motion 20’s top panel gently slopes down from front to rear. Martin Logan speakers would definitely rate a look if I were shopping. Cable awg: 8.5 I had the opportunity to review this new set in both music and cinema configurations. Motion 40i Product Page (link) One can tell that, for instance, the brass is behind the woodwinds (and slightly higher in elevation) and the woodwinds are behind the violas and cellos. This three-way system crosses over to the midrange at 500 Hz and to the AMT tweeter at a surprisingly low 2600 Hz. Still listening to my own recordings, made with a pair of Sony C37P FET microphones mounted on a stereo T-bar about 8 inches apart at a 45° angle to each other and about 10 feet over the conductor’s head and slightly behind him, the listener can close his eyes and point to every instrument in the ensemble. Judging by the number of speaker companies both in the USA and in Europe who utilize AMT tweeters, I’d say that the technology has become quite popular of late. Using an Air Motion Transformer (AMT) for the tweeter instead of a conventional dome, the Motion series looks like what most people think of when they think of a speaker. We ran them in over several nights, though we don’t think they were fresh from the box, given they immediately relished running at high levels, where beats punched out of the lower aluminium drivers with powerful punch and terrific tautness, kick drums having no smear, no un-natural overhang whatsoever. Many of my favorite audio show systems over the last couple of years have featured subwoofers, so maybe it was time to say okay, let’s give subs a try in my listeni… If you like that better, well, that’s up to you. Very concise.Â, I have a soft spot for MartinLogan and I'm always interested in its speakers. And secondly, the fact that one cable is better at, say,  rejecting RF interference than the other is not part of the equation? The AMT used in this speaker is identical in size. Mostly, with cable swaps, and bi-wiring schemes it's a crap shoot, and I have found that many audiophiles, impressed that the sound changes, automatically assume that it's a change for the better, whether it is or not because in their minds, different is always better. Yes, those are moving-coil woofers. Every configuration sounded different; single run to tweeters with short K400 jumper cable to woofer, same except connected to woofers first, and finally biwired.Â. The Motion series is a departure from MartinLogan’s traditional offerings in that this line of speakers does not utilize electrostatic drivers. BB representative asked me to give a listen to the Martin Logan. For instance; a length of RG-59 coax (of the kind usually used between audio components) of 50 ft, will attenuate a 20 KHz signal by just about 1 dB. While my Aeon-i’s are likewise a bass reflex design, the bass seems to be a bit better controlled than that of the Motion 40i speakers. Product Brochure (PDF 6MB) Devin threw that in at the end. The electrostatics are now all manufactured in Mississauga, Ontario and the Motion series are built in China. But when I listened to them and realized how closely the Motion 40s reproduce that airy crystalized sound that Martin Logan … I have no doubt that speaker cables can change the sound of a speaker. Again, it is the AMT that does the honors. I investigated biwiring my system with dual and single 10' runs of Linn K400 13ga cable. I played them more or less continuously over the next week (using the 192 kb/second MP3 Internet feed from WCRB Boston). For proper bi-amp performance you want a small signal crossover BEFORE the amplifiers. I'm not a fan of ported speakers either. It’s even better than on my Aeon-i electrostatics! Using an audio spectrum analyzer, I found that in the case of the speaker cable I was using at the time (Symo), the lower treble region was  attenuated about 1.5 dB from around 4KHz to about 6.5KHz compared to single wire. While ESS still makes speakers employing this technology (down to around 800 Hz), the patents have expired and many companies now build variations on this theme. De MartinLogan Motion 40i is geen revolutie, maar een evolutie. Sure it can change the sound, but I assure you it is subtracting something rather than adding anything. 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